Ben Spencer MP: speeches 2025

Speeches

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting argument. As I understand what he is saying, does he stick to the manifesto promises on which he was elected?

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  We were hoping that this debate would clarify the inability of the Prime Minister to answer the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition only two weeks ago: about whether he would repeat the manifesto commitment not to raise the big three taxes. We are in a period of uncertainty that we are trying to resolve, and it has been created by this ongoing kite flying.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  I thank the hon. Gentleman for his clarity. Labour Members have been keen to talk about the past, so I am glad that he brought up Gordon Brown, who sold the gold at record levels, which led to a mess that we had to clean up. Homeowners are concerned, particularly in my constituency, where many people are asset rich but cash poor. Many pensioners are worried about pension tax. People who do the right thing—make responsible decisions that we encourage, whether investing in pensions or saving for the future—are seen as targets, or potential targets, by this Government when it comes to paying for the profligate spending being offered. Those people are desperately worried. The truth is that we have to stop spending money that is not ours to spend.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  One of the striking features of this debate is how much time the Government Benchers have spent discussing our record in Government and our future plans. It is almost as if they are lingering, cheering on, and desperately in need of a change of Prime Minister. Will they facilitate that?

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  I have to apologise to the hon. Member. I came into the House in 2019, and it strikes me that this debate is probably better suited to 2018, before I was elected. On the situation that we find ourselves in, many Labour Members have spoken about the Chancellor or the Government bringing in free this and free that. The Government do not have money and the Chancellor does not have money. It is not even just taxpayers’ money that they are pledging to spend; it is our children’s money. That goes to the core of the problem that we face. The decisions that the Government are taking to keep on and not cut spending and to keep on borrowing and borrowing are not on my head. They are not on the heads of anyone in this room. Those decisions are on the heads of our children. Families know how to budget, and this is the equivalent of a parent saying, “We fancy going on holiday to—I do not know—Lanzarote this year and we are going to borrow money to do it. I am not going to borrow it on me, though; I am going to borrow it on my kids. They will take out the loan and they can pay it back in future.” It is fundamentally and morally unacceptable that we are in this position and that the Government do not have an approach to try and drive down the deficit and pay back the debt. That is why I am so pleased that the Leader of the Opposition announced the golden rule for making sure that policies going forward recognise that we cannot keep on spending money that we do not have. In the last Government, from 2010 onwards, we worked really hard on driving down debt, and we had almost got there, in terms of reducing the deficit, when covid kicked off. Can people imagine the situation we would have been in if covid had kicked off without the work we had done to balance the books and without the fiscal firepower that we had to get through it? I remember the debates that we had around covid, and I remember well the first year—I am sure everyone in this Chamber does, whether they were a Member or not. I remember early on being desperately worried that the shadow of covid would loom long and loom hard, and that, over the next decade, we would see the impact of turning off the economy for two years.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  One thing that this Government are really good at is creating a feeling of fear and worry, particularly among my constituents. They are looking at what has happened to them as a consequence of decisions that were taken in the last Budget. I am talking about people from all walks of life, across the board—people who employ people, people who are employed, people who work in hospitality and people who work in the charities sector, who have had to make very difficult decisions as a consequence of the impact of the last Budget.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  My hon. Friend is absolutely spot on. Our constituents are hurting. They are in a difficult situation and very worried about what is going to happen in two weeks’ time. They look at this place and see Government Members just wanting to talk about the past over and over again.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  The Minister just said at the Dispatch Box that national insurance contributions for employers were raised “to support the NHS”. Was that hypothecated or not?

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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  I thank my constituency neighbour, and of course I am always happy to take interventions.

• 12 Nov 2025 · Taxes · Hansard source

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• 12 Nov 2025 · Broadband Coverage · Hansard source

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  Increased gigabit coverage means more people accessing essential services online and an increasing need for cyber-security measures and a strong, open UK market for cloud services. Following recent outages, what assessment has the Minister made of the risk to Government digital services due to their refusal to diversify supply away from US big tech and instead support UK small and medium-sized enterprises?

• 5 Nov 2025 · Engagements · Hansard source

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  Q15. People across the country are fed up with extensive and needless delays caused by road, rail and utility works happening at the same time because of a failure to co-ordinate. My Transport (Duty to Cooperate) Bill would fix that and cut disruption, supporting communities and the economy. I understand that the Government are looking for ways to support the economy—apparently—so will the Deputy Prime Minister pass on my proposal to the Chancellor and back my Bill?

• 4 Nov 2025 · Draft Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure (Security Requirements for Relevant Connectable Products) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2025 · Hansard source

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  As always, Dr Murrison, it is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. His Majesty’s official Opposition welcome this statutory instrument, which establishes alternative routes to achieve cyber-security compliance for manufacturers of products within the scope of the product security and telecommunications infrastructure regime. It serves to remove non-tariff barriers to trade in digital products and devices with our strategic partners in Asia—Singapore and Japan. I recently visited Japan with the British-Japanese all-party parliamentary group, supported by the Japan Society, to strengthen UK-Japanese relations. It was a fantastic visit. It is not yet declared in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, but it will be in due course and Members should refer to my entry if interested. Regulations such as these build on and complement the strong free-trade foundation established by the last Government through their negotiation of UK accession to the comprehensive and progressive agreement for trans-Pacific partnership trade bloc and other bespoke bilateral trade agreements with Japan. I am glad the Minister welcomed the Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure Act 2022. I think he said it was a world-leading piece of legislation. Given that it was put together by the previous Government, I am glad that he has demonstrated today the same wisdom as his predecessor. I very much welcome him to his place. Several significant cyber-attacks recently have demonstrated the need for Government and industry alike to increase their cyber-resilience without delay. It is becoming increasingly evident that our cyber-security is a vital component of our national security. We are yet to have sight of the Government’s cyber-security and resilience Bill, which we understand will be targeted at supply chains and providers of digital services to our critical industries. We also eagerly await the Government’s national cyber-security strategy, which they have said will be published by the end of this year. However, what attracts significantly less public attention is the routine and widespread cyber-risk to consumers of internet-connectable devices in their homes and pockets, such as smartphones, wearable health devices and home sound systems. The last Government recognised that risk and the UK’s consumer connectable product security regime was brought into effect in April 2024. The changes were intended to reduce consumer exposure to cyber-threats and raise the baseline of product security. Diversifying the supply chain and the market for internet-connectable products has benefits for price competition, product choice and consumer confidence. It also reduces over-reliance on exports from individual states in an era of increasing geopolitical tensions. Charles Parton, senior research fellow in international security at the Royal United Services Institute, has highlighted the multifaceted risks of over-reliance on Chinese cellular internet of things modules, or CIMs. Those are hardware components that enable internet of things devices to connect to the internet via cellular networks, and they are essential for devices that need remote connectivity without relying on wi-fi or wired networks. Chinese products already have more than 50% of the international market for those components. While the use of CIMs is widespread, the option of purchasing products from strategic partners with common security concerns and goals is likely to assist in improving consumers’ ability to choose the most secure products. For the reasons that I have stated, we are supportive of the regulations. Nevertheless, I would be grateful if the Minister could answer a couple of questions. What assessment was undertaken to determine the equivalence of the Japanese and Singaporean regimes? Can the Government quantify, either in value or in volume, the trade that the regulations are expected to deliver in the first year, if not in coming years?

• 4 Nov 2025 · Draft Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure (Security Requirements for Relevant Connectable Products) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2025 · Hansard source

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  The Minister has referred a few times to cyber-security strategy. Can he update us on when we will see the Government’s cyber-security and resilience Bill?

• 3 Nov 2025 · Topical Questions · Hansard source

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  T5. According to media reports, the Secretary of State recently revealed in a speech that the UK had deployed troops to Israel to monitor the ceasefire in Gaza. Could he take this opportunity to update the House on the number and activities of any troops deployed there?

• 22 Oct 2025 · Heathrow: National Airports Review · Hansard source

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  Egham in my constituency is five miles from Heathrow, and it is not the fact that it is overflowing that I want to ask about today. The shadow Secretary of State for Transport, my right hon. Friend the Member for Basildon and Billericay (Mr Holden), visited the patch on Monday, and we waited 12 minutes while level crossing barriers were down in Pooley Green. The Secretary of State did not mention whether trains would be part of the consultation. Will they be within scope? If the expansion goes ahead, we will desperately need to deal with our level crossings, and we will need better rail access from Egham to Heathrow to make this work.

• 22 Oct 2025 · Energy Security: North Sea Gas and Oil · Hansard source

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  2. What assessment he has made of the contribution of North sea gas and oil to energy security.

• 22 Oct 2025 · Energy Security: North Sea Gas and Oil · Hansard source

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  We all know that the Government’s energy policy is unsustainable. It has even been reported that the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero is looking at authorising tiebacks to access new oil and gas wells using existing infrastructure in the North sea. Will the Secretary of State acknowledge that if we want to increase energy security and reduce energy prices for households and businesses, we must expand the use of the energy resources available to us, including North sea oil and gas?

• 21 Oct 2025 · Topical Questions · Hansard source

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  Children in Runnymede and Weybridge are waiting on average two years to get a diagnosis of autism or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder from Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS foundation trust. The trust is deviating from national guidance on new developmental pathways, and waiting times are even greater if children need medication. Does the Secretary of State share my concerns, and will he investigate the trust and make sure that children and families get the support that they need?

• 21 Oct 2025 · Mandatory Digital ID · Hansard source

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  The point is that we have a sector that is already developing voluntary ID schemes. It is now being let down by the Government, who are bringing in their own mandatory scheme. Not once in the course of previous debates did the Minister mention that the Government intend to launch their own mandatory digital ID system for the right to work or anything else, but the concerns with this policy go beyond questions of democratic legitimacy. The National Audit Office’s report on Government cyber-resilience, published early this year, contains a number of concerning findings about serious gaps in cyber-security amongst Government Departments and public sector bodies. One of the most concerning is that the Cabinet Office does not have a strategy for how Government organisations could become cyber-resilient by 2030. There is no current plan to secure the Government’s cyber-resilience over the very same timeframe that this mandatory Government-run identity scheme, which will host the data of every working person in the UK, will be rolled out. We are yet to hear from the Government a clear timescale for bringing their cyber-security and resilience Bill forwards. Digital inclusion remains a challenge for many across this country and impacts vulnerable groups, such as those on low incomes and those with disabilities, the most. The Government’s policy of making digital ID mandatory to access work flies in the face of digital inclusion. The consideration given to digital exclusion being, “Well, we are going to consult on what to do,” as an afterthought is frankly shameful. Digital inclusion was at the heart of the previous Government’s levelling-up ambitions. The Government published their own digital inclusion plan in February, which will be implemented over several years. Why not concentrate on putting that plan into effect, rather than diverting resources towards their own costly digital identity programme? Universal digital inclusion and robust cyber-security must be conditions precedent to any Government-run ID scheme. At the moment, we have neither. We are left with a number of pressing questions. Why was this flagship policy not part of the Government’s election manifesto last year? Why has it been brought forward now? Why should it be mandatory rather than optional? Why are the Government pursuing a costly, Government-run ID scheme when the private sector infrastructure for digital ID services exists already? What is the Government’s plan to keep citizens’ data secure? Can the Minister guarantee that no one lawfully eligible to work will be excluded from employment by this scheme?

• 21 Oct 2025 · Mandatory Digital ID · Hansard source

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  It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Turner. I thank the hon. Member for Perth and Kinross-shire (Pete Wishart) for securing this timely and important debate, as well as his characteristically forceful and measured speech. It has been a fun debate with lots of contributions. I am sure there will be plenty more opportunities going forward, but I want to draw out a few particularly powerful contributions. First, my hon. Friend the Member for South Shropshire (Stuart Anderson) pointed out the issues around the prevalence of digital exclusion and the use of the veteran card. Secondly, my right hon. Friend the Member for Goole and Pocklington (David Davis) rightly pointed out the issues that the gov.uk One Login has had. Thirdly, my hon. Friend the Member for Farnham and Bordon (Gregory Stafford) pointed out the problem of the prevalence of digital poverty among the elderly. Finally, the hon. Member for Dewsbury and Batley (Iqbal Mohamed), who always speaks with great wisdom in these debates, spoke about the issue of multiple NHS logins. This plan will make Government-issued digital ID compulsory to access work. Ignore the piffle—this is de facto mandatory. Given the contentious history of mandatory ID schemes in this country, one might have expected a policy of such weighty constitutional importance to appear in the Government’s manifesto, but it was conspicuously absent—like most current Government policy. Earlier this year, I stood across the Dispatch Box from the previous Minister, debating the digital verification system brought in by the Data (Use and Access) Act 2025. That scheme created a trust framework for a register of approved providers of digital identity verification services. Building on the competitive ecosystem established by the last Government, private sector companies are already providing right to rent, right to work and many other identity checks.

• 20 Oct 2025 · Alleged Spying Case: Home Office Involvement · Hansard source

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  I think most people would consider things that are threatening indeed to be threats, so we can only assume that the Minister has been instructed that he cannot make such a statement from the Dispatch Box. Will he help us to understand better the Government’s position on their relationship with China. Is China an ally? Is it a friend? Will he explain that?

• 16 Sept 2025 · Ambassador to the United States · Hansard source

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  Will the right hon. Member give way?

• 16 Sept 2025 · Ambassador to the United States · Hansard source

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  I am grateful to the right hon. Lady, who is very generous. As MPs, we put the interests of the country above all else. What does she make of the decision to appoint an individual to represent our country in difficult negotiations in the knowledge that the other country had compromising information on the individual?

• 16 Sept 2025 · Topical Questions · Hansard source

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  T3. My team and I support many families navigating the special educational needs and disabilities system, and one of the challenges is delays in getting access to tribunal justice. As the Secretary of State gets to grips with his new role, will he make shortening those delays one of his priorities, and can he update the House accordingly?